When I A/B'd I've noticed the 414 doesn't seem to pick up lower mids as well, so the vocal had a little less meat. 01-16-2005 #2. krs. If the OP has a way of managing the inherent problems of recording in a room with all hard surfaces, then that's fine, but it's important to be aware of the limitations and benefits of each mic. Hey I used the SM7b for about 2-3 years, it was my first "good" mic and I was satisfied with it but not blown away. When I A/B'd I've noticed the 414 doesn't seem to pick up lower mids as well, so the vocal had a little less meat. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered. It's crazy too, because I'm just recording in my bedroom with no sound proofing or anything. of my music, so you can get a sense of what I typically do and what mic would best fit my voice/style. One of their best-known ones is the AKG D5 which is a Supercardioid microphone, meaning that it will reject almost all the sound that isn’t coming from the front.. XLII, XLS, ULS, EB, B XLII. Noise. Now after I've purchased my first 414 XLS, it makes me wonder if I ever want a stereo pair and if it would be considered "okay" to match it with a different 414 model, like a B-ULS but honestly I have no idea. The 414 is probably a more accurate representation of sound, but the sm7b is smoother and possibly flattering. While I am also a fan of Swiss Army type gear, room treatment is IMPERATIVE to getting a good sound... To suggest otherwise is misleading the OP. Tags: akg; microphones; pro audio; shure; RTG03 Active Member. C414 has great polar pattern options! For male baritone type voice the sm7b might be better. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. Das AKG ist vielseitiger und verträgt auch Shouts etc. I'm just recording in my bedroom with no sound proofing or anything. If the OP has a way of managing the inherent problems of recording in a room with all hard surfaces, then that's fine, but it's important to be aware of the limitations and benefits of each mic. Also my room is currently untreated so I do get a bit of room noise (although I just ordered 3 of the GIK 242 panels). It's crazy too, because I'm just recording in my bedroom with no sound proofing or anything. If you have a bad room, the 7B might be more useful. AKG, despite not being AS well-known as Shure, still creates microphones that definitely are at the same level. But it will capture highs better making it sound a bit more crisp articulate. I just like hearing all of your opinions, very good insight and this will surely help me make a decision. One of the great dynamic designs from Sennheiser, the MD421 is another studio staple. Das C 414 gibt es seit Jahrzehnten. Milkfaj. AKG mics are long-standing favorites, and its flagship model the C414 is often a presence in many home and professional studios’ mic cabinets. View Profile View Forum Posts View Articles Junior Member Join Date Jan 2005 Posts 72 Thanks 0 Thanked 0 … this brings up a concern I have about the c414, there are a bunch of different models that all look the same! I gotta say, it sounds impressive when given enough gain.. and is cheap. As I know there is no real answer to this question, it's mostly all preference. But it will capture highs better making it sound a bit more crisp articulate. While I am also a fan of Swiss Army type gear, room treatment is IMPERATIVE to getting a good sound... To suggest otherwise is misleading the OP. The classic multi-pattern design with selectable pad and low end roll-off makes this mic suitable for almost any task: from airy vocals to pianos to drum overheads. I just picked up an AKG 414 XLS II from ebay for $600 in great condition. I just picked up an AKG 414 XLS II from ebay for $600 in great condition. For male baritone type voice the sm7b might be better. I have heard many negative things about the C414 being used for hiphop vocals. Hey there! When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Thus, it is a lot brighter and crispier. C414 has great polar pattern options! Overall they just have differnet vibes. Also my room is currently untreated so I do get a bit of room noise (although I just ordered 3 of the GIK 242 panels). The C414 XLS Multi-Pattern Large Diaphragm Condenser Microphone has become one of the staples of the audio industry. +1 on the 414, but I'll second what manosar said about the room problems. The 414 might work better on a female vocal, or possibly a high male. I love this mic so much more. AKG c414 vs Shure SM7b Gearslutz is part-supported by our visitors. Hello everyone, Im about to purchase 3 mic's, for mainly drums, but also guitar, and bass, and possibly vocals. I gotta say, it sounds impressive when given enough gain.. and is cheap. Curing Condenser Confusion: An Audio History of the AKG C 414, Already have an account? You can change the polar patterns on the AKG 414 so using a pattern like cardioid or hyper-cardioid may help out. The newer 414s have the narrow cardioid pattern what might help with that, but the 414 will suffer more than the SM7 with a non-treated room. Which 414? I've got an SM7, and I've been pretty happy with it. The 414 might work better on a female vocal, or possibly a high male. Joined: Oct 23, 2012 Location: Chicago. All the beats I'm making myself and I'm seriously just having a blast! Or should I sell my AKG C414, use the money to buy an SM7b, and have some left over to put towards an Avalon 737? For other uses where the SM7B shines, like radio broadcasts or narration, the SM58 sounds kind of “dull”. View Profile View Forum Posts View Articles Senior Member Join Date Sep 2004 Posts 186 Thanks 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power 0. 01-16-2005 #3. Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page, Curing Condenser Confusion: An Audio History of the AKG C 414. I'm a fan of "Swiss Army Knife" gear. Thanks for all your help! NEW GEAR! Als Raummikro ist das im Gegensatz zum SM7b besser geeignet. When I A/B'd I've noticed the 414 doesn't seem to pick up lower mids as well, so the vocal had a little less meat. I'm just recording in my bedroom with no sound proofing or anything. I just like hearing all of your opinions, very good insight and this will surely help me make a decision. The polar pattern switching gives you much more flexibility. If you have a bad room, the 7B might be more useful. Thanks guys! The 414 is probably a more accurate representation of sound, but the sm7b is smoother and possibly flattering. I'm a fan of "Swiss Army Knife" gear. I've been working towards putting out my first mixtape, have about 3 songs finished and 4 in the works. Condenser microphones like the C214 typically pick up a lot of noise, whether this be ambient, room, or background noise. this brings up a concern I have about the c414, there are a bunch of different models that all look the same! Overall they just have differnet vibes. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free. I am recording male hiphop vocals. it's tax return season so you know what that means! So yeah.. do your research on it and you'll find out how it's the most widely used mic that works on a ton of sources... it's the president's mic... and it was one of michael jackson's main mics... i forget for which albums, According to this article he also used the sm57. +1 on the 414, but I'll second what manosar said about the room problems. Thanks for all your help! Shure vs AKG. I've been working towards putting out my first mixtape, have about 3 songs finished and 4 in the works. IMO ppl will typically give you the mic they like not what may work best for you. If you have a bad room, the 7B might be more useful. Hey I used the SM7b for about 2-3 years, it was my first "good" mic and I was satisfied with it but not blown away. AKG C214 Unlike Shure SM7B, AKG C214 is a condenser microphone. Discussion in 'Microphones (live or studio)' started by RTG03, Oct 31, 2012. You may want to take a look at c214 vs c414 actually to be honest... if you keep an eye out sm7bs pop up used at guitar center for 180-225. I just grabbed a cloudlifter so I don't have to push my pres too hard all the time. The sweet spot for my voice is around 60db of gain. The AKG C414 XLS is unmatched in terms of versatility. You can change the polar patterns on the AKG 414 so using a pattern like cardioid or hyper-cardioid may help out. Now after I've purchased my first 414 XLS, it makes me wonder if I ever want a stereo pair and if it would be considered "okay" to match it with a different 414 model, like a B-ULS but honestly I have no idea. Learn more about the SM58 on Amazon. Room has a huge impact on that. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. I love this mic so much more. The SM7B has a bass roll off switch and mid-range emphasis switch, while the C214 has a -20dB pad and a low cut filter. it's tax return season so you know what that means! i would just use the three to record the whole band just for fun. All the beats I'm making myself and I'm seriously just having a blast! As I know there is no real answer to this question, it's mostly all preference. The 414 might work better on a female vocal, or possibly a high male. AKG C414 vs. Shure KSM44? Shure SM7B Vs AKG C214 The SM58 also has a significant cut below 100 Hz, similar to the SM7B when the bass cut is switched on. The polar pattern switching gives you much more flexibility. I can't figure the difference between them! of my music, so you can get a sense of what I typically do and what mic would best fit my voice/style. But it will capture highs better making it sound a bit more crisp articulate. I can't figure the difference between them! It is modeled after AKG C414 XLII for delivering excellent details on lead vocals and solo instruments, except that it features only one polar pattern, which is cardioid. You need an account to post a reply. For what? You may want to take a look at c214 vs c414 actually to be honest... if you keep an eye out sm7bs pop up used at guitar center for 180-225. Following after the C414’s footsteps is its younger brother, the AKG C214. IMO ppl will typically give you the mic they like not what may work best for you. For male baritone type voice the sm7b might be better. Room has a huge impact on that. Overall they just have differnet vibes. So yeah.. do your research on it and you'll find out how it's the most widely used mic that works on a ton of sources... it's the president's mic... and it was one of michael jackson's main mics... i forget for which albums, According to this article he also used the sm57. Ist ein Klassiker in verschiedenen Varianten. Due to its nature, it is also very sensitive to sounds. 30th January 2014 04:21 PM. The newer 414s have the narrow cardioid pattern what might help with that, but the 414 will suffer more than the SM7 with a non-treated room. As the effect, it can capture subtle sound details and accurate sounds, as … Sign in to disable this ad Which is Better? I've got an SM7, and I've been pretty happy with it. The AKG C214 is a large diaphragm condenser microphone with a single cardioid polar pattern with side address. Sennheiser MD421 . 4. The 414 is probably a more accurate representation of sound, but the sm7b is smoother and possibly flattering. ("to bright" "Scoops out the lows and mids", "its a better instrument mic than it is a vocal mic", "the b xls sucks") I don't seem to EVER read any negative … NEW GEAR! I just grabbed a cloudlifter so I don't have to push my pres too hard all the time. XLII, XLS, ULS, EB, B XLII. Thanks guys! 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